Collider: What can you say to tease this next episode, “Enemy of My Enemy,” and how it will be setting things up for the remaining episodes, this season?
PHIL KLEMMER: As you know, John and Cara have been somewhat estranged, recently. I think we got tantalizing close to a reconciliation at the end of the last episode, until John rebuffed her for having put out a hit on Jedikiah and betraying their own species. But in the next episode, the issue is going to be forced, as to whether John and Cara will make peace, not necessarily romantically, but as comrades in arms because there’s an existential crisis for the Tomorrow People. When Julian returns, he comes back on the side of Jedikiah, and Jedikiah has every intention of returning the favor. Cara tried to kill him, so it’s an eye for an eye. The irony is that Stephen, who’s John’s romantic rival, is forced to broker this detente between John and Cara. And he doesn’t want them together, but he recognizes that, unless the Tomorrow People can get on the same side, they’re not going to be able to survive. By the end of the episode, we will have Ultra effectively knowing where the lair is. There will be no place left for our people to hide. So, John and Cara’s romantic reunion is upstaged by the idea of whether they’re going to be able to keep their people united and able to withstand this storming of their castle.
Did you always know that you wanted to bring in a character from Cara’s past, to really throw her off balance just when she should be gaining confidence in her own leadership?
KLEMMER: I didn’t always know it. We made her early leadership so perilous that there were times, along the way, where I had moments of doubt about whether we were just flinging too much shit towards her way. It really sucks for her. She wants to be with John and she wants to protect her people, but she’s basically like Obama in his first term, when he just inherited a big shit sandwich. She has to deal with trying to keep people united. And to have a guy like Julian crawl out of her past, and bring up her feelings of responsibility for having gotten this poor girl killed, and of inadequacy, I feel like you will get to see Cara triumphant and just owning her warrior queen crown. The fact that we’ve made her suffer so much to get there, and the fact that we’ve made her suffer so much in John’s absence, by the time the sweet release comes, it will have been worth every ounce of pain.
It’s clear that John and Cara are very different leaders, and may have been stronger together than they are individually. And showing how challenging it’s been for her, maybe gives them a new perspective and an appreciation for how difficult it might have been for John to lead them.
KLEMMER: Absolutely! It allows her to forgive some of the things that he did that were certainly wrong to Cara, personally, because they were all for the sake of the Tomorrow People, as a group. Once she’s in his shoes, she’ll be forced to make similarly morally grey decisions. The idea that she sent a hitman to kill Jedikiah seems like something John would have done. But if John had done it as leader, in the first half of the season, I feel like she would have criticized him. It’s the burden of leadership. It pushes them together in a spiritual way. In a lot of people’s fantasizes, they would be a ruling king and queen, but unfortunately, the problem with monarchies is that there’s only one ruler.
It seems as though most of the Tomorrow People are losing hope that they’ll ever find Stephen’s father, except for Stephen, who’s still holding out hope, no matter what. Now that we’ve seen that Jedikiah is holding onto his own brother, when will we learn what that’s all about?
KLEMMER: It’s going to start unfolding really quickly, and it’s going to cascade from there. Fairly soon, Jedikiah will get to make his case for why he killed his brother for all the right reasons. The problem is that you have a he said, he said with the Founder claiming the back history of Ultra, which ended in Stephen’s father taking a bullet in the heart. Jedikiah says it went one way and the Founder says it went another way, and Stephen doesn’t trust either of these bastards, nor should he. And the only person who can settle the tie is frozen in a cryo chamber with a bullet in his heart. The fun about the end of this season is that Stephen is going to have to commit, and he’s got two really crappy people to follow, in the Founder and Jedikiah. It really keeps his head spinning. Once you figure out what everybody did and why, all of the complications of the past get restarted, in a moment. The dark history of Ultra becomes a dark presence for humanity.
Up until this point, both Stephen and Jedikiah seem to be looking the other way, even though they’re suspicious of each other. Will that come to a head, at some point? Will they have to deal with the fact that neither one has the best intentions for the other?
KLEMMER: Yeah. Jedikiah is very much a need-to-know kind of guy. He’s very deft at steering people to do what he wants them to do. Fairly soon, he’ll try to turn Stephen into a killer. He’s always manipulating people. He always has an agenda beneath an agenda that’s hidden beneath an agenda. But at a certain point, fairly soon, everybody’s cards will be on the table and there will be nowhere left to hide. It’s too late for the world of hiding out in the lair and grabbing break-outs. The top is blown off of our world of paranormals. Literally, we have Tomorrow People fighting in the streets of Manhattan. The stakes go behind the personal. It’s no longer about Stephen finding his dad, and it’s no longer about trying to protect this little band of Tomorrow People. It’s about which species – humans or paranormals – will survive. The scope of our show promises a Season 2 that is unlike anything you could imagine.